| | | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-10 15:25:19 |
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" just putting one page. html & increase pagerank" What in the frig does that mean ???? The only way to increase your PR# is by having RELEVANT ONE Way Links pointing to your site, no more, no less. And no, traffic WILL NOT increase your PR#.
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| | | Post By: member_237010 | Post Date: 2009-10-11 04:39:43 |
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| Quoted from: lola on 2009-10-10 15:25:19 " just putting one page. html & increase pagerank" What in the frig does that mean ???? The only way to increase your PR# is by having RELEVANT ONE Way Links pointing to your site, no more, no less. And no, traffic WILL NOT increase your PR#. |
after 6 months operate, my blog PR still #2. maybe take more times to increase.
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-11 09:02:42 |
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| Quoted from: member_237010 on 2009-10-11 04:39:43 after 6 months operate, my blog PR still #2. maybe take more times to increase. |
To many webmasters focus on their PR # when in reality they should be focusing on their SERP position.A PR# WILL NOT get you a page one position within the results page for your keywords. There are plenty of PR0 and low PR# sites on page one of the SERP's. My PR 2 site is well over 2 years old and is on page one of all the Major SE's and I beat out sites with a PR5 and up all the time. Matter of fact, while a PR# will not get you a SERP placement, the catch 22 is - if you have any bad back links or bad neighborhood back links it can hurt your site in the SERP's.
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| | | Post By: showmethemom | Post Date: 2009-10-11 16:34:54 |
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The best way to increase page rank is to get other sites to link back to you. Google explains the PR system (if you Google 'increase pagerank' you will get some good results.) That being said, it's kind of a hit and miss idea on if it's worth it. There are some well known sites with no page rank because people just KNOW to go to them without necessarily linking back. What's more important is how well your site is actually ranking within the Google search engine. THAT Is what will lead people to your site and generate traffic more than Page Rank.
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| | | Post By: member_223377 | Post Date: 2009-10-12 11:30:19 |
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if you want to increase page rank. add my site to yours www.freeipod4.me.uk and email me via my site. then I will add yours. easy backlinking !!
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-13 10:36:44 |
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| Quoted from: member_223377 on 2009-10-12 11:30:19 if you want to increase page rank. add my site to yours www.freeipod4.me.uk and email me via my site. then I will add yours. easy backlinking !! |
Sorry to break the news to you, BUT, link exchanging will not help your PR#.Google stopped giving any relevance/credence to reciprocal links in fall of 2007, due to the misuse of reciprocal linking ( link exchanging). Only Relevant ONE WAY links pointing to YOUR site will help your PR#.
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The best way to increase page rank is to get other sites to link back to you. Google explains the PR system (if you Google 'increase pagerank' you will get some good results.) That being said, it's kind of a hit and miss idea on if it's worth it. There are some well known sites with no page rank because people just KNOW to go to them without necessarily linking back. What's more important is how well your site is actually ranking within the Google search engine. THAT Is what will lead people to your site and generate traffic more than Page Rank. www.flamingoforex.com
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| | | | Post By: rubydog | Post Date: 2009-10-13 14:39:21 |
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Dofollow blogs and forums help somewhat. Don't load your site up with too many outgoing links. Best way to increase PR pay more attn. to your content & SEO, than worrying abot PR.
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| | Post By: member_107291 | Post Date: 2009-10-14 07:53:10 |
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To get a good page rank you have to watch out for the following: content, page title, keyword density, site structure. But the most important thing from my point is to have relevant content and to be SEO friendly
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| | | | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-15 10:47:52 |
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| Quoted from: TheOddsAreIn on 2009-10-14 16:03:16 Traffic exchanges such as Link Referral. |
No it will not !!!Traffic has nothing to do with your PR#. Traffic will not increase your SERP position - your traffic COMES FROM THE SERP's !!!!!!
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| Quoted from: lola on 2009-10-15 10:47:52 No it will not !!! Traffic has nothing to do with your PR#. Traffic will not increase your SERP position - your traffic COMES FROM THE SERP's !!!!!! |
Just my 2 cents, but you should all listen to what lola is saying. The traffic and backlinking is antiquated thinking, google did away with that.
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If you like to increase traffic and Page Rank, lets do link exchange. Follow me at http://www.twitter.com/aminjohar who like to exchange with my website :-)
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| | | | | | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-18 11:06:38 |
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| Quoted from: member_241000 on 2009-10-16 18:17:07 How do I get my site on page 1 of google.com, FREE OF CHARGE? |
That would be the SERP's. SERP= Search Engine Results Page. What you want is a good position ( page one) SERP. And something ALL sites should strive for since your traffic/customers/visitors come from the SERP's and not from PR or traffic exchanges.To achieve a good SERP position for your keywords, you must do the proper optimization for each keyword within your individual site pages according to what the set density is per keyword in the page one SERP. Usually the rule of thumb is 2-3% density per keyword within your site page content. BUT!!! The density could be higher or lower, depending on what the SE algo has set ( approximate) the density at for that keyword/phrase. So it would take research on your part to see where the keyword/phrase density is approximated on page one of the SE's.
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Increasing page rank takes time there is no shortcut, time effort, crosslinks and proper SEO. Unfortunately everywebsite starts on the same position on this, some move ahead and some do not dependant on how much knowledge the owner learns or how many dollars are invested. Basically learn how to do it or pay.
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| Quoted from: showmethemom on 2009-10-11 16:34:54 The best way to increase page rank is to get other sites to link back to you. Google explains the PR system (if you Google 'increase pagerank' you will get some good results.) That being said, it's kind of a hit and miss idea on if it's worth it. There are some well known sites with no page rank because people just KNOW to go to them without necessarily linking back. What's more important is how well your site is actually ranking within the Google search engine. THAT Is what will lead people to your site and generate traffic more than Page Rank. |
Thanks for the good advice - really helps to put things into perspective for me .
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| | | | | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-19 09:45:07 |
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| Quoted from: member_263610 on 2009-10-18 14:42:31 Thanks for the good advice - really helps to put things into perspective for me . |
Google has made some major changes about how they perceive PR. Most of the changes have been made this summer and more drastic changes are to come in the near future concerning PR ( links)and their search engine results page placements.It was just announced that google does not see PR as a determining factor in how you are placed in the SE. Google has also taken the PR feature off the Google Webmaster tools, because they do not want people to be think that PR is a determining factor anymore. Google has made these changes and has also re-programmed their SE, Big Bot and spiders to over ride any " no follow" tags where links are concerned. Google stated that links are clogging their SE and they are doing what they can to get rid of the problem. Google wants sites that are " clean ". Not sites with a bunch of links for their indexing and search engine results page. That is one of the reasons why ANY BAD LINKS will hurt you in the google SE. What every one should focus on is SERP, not PR. The serp is the search engines results page. How your site shows up and what position it has in the SE's, through your customer/vistor targeted keywords. And PR will NOT get you a position in the SE's. One way linking ( PR ) is used for other purposes that has NOTHING to do with the SE's. PR is only used by those that want to sell links ( paid links a big google no, no), sell advertising space and/or attract advertisers. No more, no less ! I think the major problem is most new webmasters confuse the term PR as a " page ranking" in the SE's. PR does not mean position one on page one of the SERP ( search engine results page).
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| | Post By: member_187315 | Post Date: 2009-10-19 13:24:19 |
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I follow the comment that PR raking is not the only issue with getting on to page one but if it is of little or no importance way is it even measured? It must have some effect.
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-19 13:44:13 |
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| Quoted from: member_187315 on 2009-10-19 13:24:19 I follow the comment that PR raking is not the only issue with getting on to page one but if it is of little or no importance way is it even measured? It must have some effect. |
Rules change all the time with all the major SE's. And google has changed how they use PR within their SE ( PR is and has only been for google - aka. google PR), since the one way linking systems are being abused and is way to easy to obtain now-a-days. And with a recent statement that ," Matt Cutts", from google, made, links are clogging the google SE and they are doing their best to combat that problem. That also happened with reciprocal linking ( link exchanging ) and google stopped putting any credence to reciprocal links in fall of 2007, since to many sites were setting up link farms.Like I said the SE rules change all the time and it is up to the webmaster to keep up with the changes. I keep up with the SE changes and that is how I am able to keep my site successful within the SE's and have consistent sales. And NO, NO, NO ! PR has zero affect with how you are placed in the search engine results page. PR is NOT used for that purpose anymore and has not been used for that purpose for quite some time. Google has even removed the PR feature on the web master central tools, because they do not want new webmasters to think that google makes PR a determining factoring when it comes to the search engine results page ( SERP). My site is successful in Google, Yahoo, Bing and Ask.com ,for all my customer targeted keywords. I made it to page one two years ago in the Google SE with a PR 0 and still to this day stay on page one of all the SE's with only a PR2 and I beat out sites in the SERP with PR5. I never once worked on my PR. LOL, I stay on page one because I do the proper SEO on my site pages, not by chasing around for one way links. Now ! Google PR is still used as a popularity gage for ADVERTISERS, not the google SE, but for those that sell links, advertising space and those that want to attract advertisers. And since google has made their recent announcement about PR not being a determining factor within their SE, time will only tell on how PR will affect the advertising industry. Might not make a difference, who knows.
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I understand what you are saying but always consider a little cynically what Google say and what they do. I do some of my own SEO (we all should be capable of some skill) but some times the results seem so varible, some of my pages are 1 but some are not even found and thhis is so inconsistent. I believe that the web works on rules and if we can understand the rules then the results will come. However what I see on my site is as I said before inconsistent.
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-20 14:18:51 |
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| Quoted from: member_187315 on 2009-10-20 13:46:43 I understand what you are saying but always consider a little cynically what Google say and what they do. I do some of my own SEO (we all should be capable of some skill) but some times the results seem so varible, some of my pages are 1 but some are not even found and thhis is so inconsistent. I believe that the web works on rules and if we can understand the rules then the results will come. However what I see on my site is as I said before inconsistent. |
The SE's give all individual site pages difference SERP placement according to how well that individual site page is optimized for whatever keyword/phrase you want SE placement for and must be totally related to that page. Not the whole site. The SE's do not see a site as whole as us humans do. They only see individual site pages as single documents. And these documents just so happen to be linking to each other. Since all serp results are keyword based, each page gets separate keyword density optimization for whatever keyword/phrase you want SERP placement for. Now, bad linking can also have a negative effect on that single page. If there are any bad links attached or pointing to that individual page it will cause major SERP problems, also known as a google penalty for that site page.Do a link check with this tool : http://www.bad-neighborhood.com/text-link-tool.htm
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| Quoted from: lola on 2009-10-20 14:18:51 The SE's give all individual site pages difference SERP placement according to how well that individual site page is optimized for whatever keyword/phrase you want SE placement for and must be totally related to that page. Not the whole site. The SE's do not see a site as whole as us humans do. They only see individual site pages as single documents. And these documents just so happen to be linking to each other. Since all serp results are keyword based, each page gets separate keyword density optimization for whatever keyword/phrase you want SERP placement for. Now, bad linking can also have a negative effect on that single page. If there are any bad links attached or pointing to that individual page it will cause major SERP problems, also known as a google penalty for that site page. Do a link check with this tool : http://www.bad-neighborhood.com/text-link-tool.htm |
Thanks for the link check tool it was really useful, all my links were fine but there were a few other issues I will follow up on.I do understand that all pages are ranked separately but if I can get one ranked well I should be able to do it for the other pages too, I think now it is coming down to me choice of keywords
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-21 17:39:56 |
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| Quoted from: member_187315 on 2009-10-21 14:07:21 Thanks for the link check tool it was really useful, all my links were fine but there were a few other issues I will follow up on. I do understand that all pages are ranked separately but if I can get one ranked well I should be able to do it for the other pages too, I think now it is coming down to me choice of keywords |
Hi Christine,LOL, I wish it were that simple about ranking for all pages. You need to remember that all keywords in a SE have different algo density. So you would have to do some density research on the keywords you want a good serp position for. That of course would mean finding out the approximate density your competitors are using on page one for that specific keyword.
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| Quoted from: lola on 2009-10-21 17:39:56 Hi Christine, LOL, I wish it were that simple about ranking for all pages. You need to remember that all keywords in a SE have different algo density. So you would have to do some density research on the keywords you want a good serp position for. That of course would mean finding out the approximate density your competitors are using on page one for that specific keyword. |
I understand keyword density should be between 3 and 4 for the keywords you have choosen, but did not know if you could measure the density of a competitors keywords.I have found one site that measures my sites density but not any other site tthat I ask
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| | Post By: lola | Post Date: 2009-10-22 14:10:20 |
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| Quoted from: member_187315 on 2009-10-22 13:22:16 I understand keyword density should be between 3 and 4 for the keywords you have choosen, but did not know if you could measure the density of a competitors keywords. I have found one site that measures my sites density but not any other site tthat I ask |
Hi Christine,Check your link referral email inbox. I have some info for you on how to check the density. Pam
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| Quoted from: member_187315 on 2009-10-23 14:30:03 What is that you are curious to know? |
LOL, is his name George ? He might want to direct that question to the man with the yellow hat !!!
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| Quoted from: showmethemom on 2009-10-11 16:34:54 The best way to increase page rank is to get other sites to link back to you. Google explains the PR system (if you Google 'increase pagerank' you will get some good results.) That being said, it's kind of a hit and miss idea on if it's worth it. There are some well known sites with no page rank because people just KNOW to go to them without necessarily linking back. What's more important is how well your site is actually ranking within the Google search engine. THAT Is what will lead people to your site and generate traffic more than Page Rank. |
Thanks Shannon for helping me out as well. I will check it out and see can I get some more traffic flowing my way.
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