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How Many Back Links do you have?
"Just curious how many backlinks everyone has roughly to their site. Also how long did it take you to reach that number. What ways did you use to accomplish this. And finally what is a good number of backlinks to shot for? In other words how many backlinks should we be trying to get, we realize as many as possible but whats a ball park figure?" |
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Actually, the answer is NOT "as many as possible" since Google will penalize you for having too many backlinks if it doesn't look natural to them. Getting too many too fast is the easiest way to get buried in the SERP's. Yahoo is different in that it loves lots of backlinks, so it really depends on which search engine you want love from. The best balance is to get a few good backlinks from authority sites in your niche that dont look spammy, especially if PR is important to you. I have sites with 10,000 backlinks and sites with 10, and they both do well for their niche because those backlinks were the right ones for those sites. Choose your backlinks carefully and don't just throw links at your site just for the sake of having them.
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| | Post By: member_253495 | Post Date: 2009-10-21 00:53:53 |
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| Quoted from: member_144892 on 2009-10-20 22:22:47 Actually, the answer is NOT "as many as possible" since Google will penalize you for having too many backlinks if it doesn't look natural to them. Getting too many too fast is the easiest way to get buried in the SERP's. Yahoo is different in that it loves lots of backlinks, so it really depends on which search engine you want love from. The best balance is to get a few good backlinks from authority sites in your niche that dont look spammy, especially if PR is important to you. I have sites with 10,000 backlinks and sites with 10, and they both do well for their niche because those backlinks were the right ones for those sites. Choose your backlinks carefully and don't just throw links at your site just for the sake of having them. |
Thank you so much for your thoughtful & informative reply it really is a big help. We have lots of products listed but have very minimal traffic roughly 100 a day and very little sales which surprises us because of the amount of effort, products we offer and prices. Just trying to make this online business thing work. We're lucky to get 6 sales a month if that with over 1000 products listed just trying to get this thing going hopefully in time for x-mas. Thanks again really appreciate it :)
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| | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-10-21 23:57:35 |
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| Quoted from: member_253495 on 2009-10-21 00:53:53 Thank you so much for your thoughtful & informative reply it really is a big help. We have lots of products listed but have very minimal traffic roughly 100 a day and very little sales which surprises us because of the amount of effort, products we offer and prices. Just trying to make this online business thing work. We're lucky to get 6 sales a month if that with over 1000 products listed just trying to get this thing going hopefully in time for x-mas. Thanks again really appreciate it :) |
You're welcome!I also suggest you create a blog to showcase individual products, as many people actually sell more that way than with a traditional website. SEO each and every post as if it were a static webpage, because that's exactly how the SE's see it. If you had a special on "KidKraft Pastel Toaster Set", then write a blogpost specifically about that with that as the title and that phrase in the text. Then link to where a visitor can buy it on your site (with the phrase again as your anchor text). Put up some red "sale" tags on your site too, as it looks more appealing. It doesn't matter if its really on sale, as it just has to LOOK that way. Selling anything online involves as much psychology as it does ecommerce...
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| | Post By: member_253495 | Post Date: 2009-10-24 14:38:07 |
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| Quoted from: member_144892 on 2009-10-21 23:57:35 You're welcome! I also suggest you create a blog to showcase individual products, as many people actually sell more that way than with a traditional website. SEO each and every post as if it were a static webpage, because that's exactly how the SE's see it. If you had a special on "KidKraft Pastel Toaster Set", then write a blogpost specifically about that with that as the title and that phrase in the text. Then link to where a visitor can buy it on your site (with the phrase again as your anchor text). Put up some red "sale" tags on your site too, as it looks more appealing. It doesn't matter if its really on sale, as it just has to LOOK that way. Selling anything online involves as much psychology as it does ecommerce... |
Thats a great a idea we do have a blog but we mostly have been posting informative stuff like how to decorate or what certain bedding products are etc. We never thought to actually post products there didn't think that would actually get us sales. We will have to try that should we also add our blog to linkreferral?
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| | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-10-24 22:41:06 |
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| Quoted from: member_253495 on 2009-10-24 14:38:07 Thats a great a idea we do have a blog but we mostly have been posting informative stuff like how to decorate or what certain bedding products are etc. We never thought to actually post products there didn't think that would actually get us sales. We will have to try that should we also add our blog to linkreferral? |
I wouldn't add it here, no.LR is more a community of swapping ideas and helping people learn all the many things there is to know about succeeding online. While you can get a few hits to your site from here, they aren't targeted from buyers, so its not of much use to your product site. Do it the right way from the start and SEO everything you do for search engine traffic, so that way you reel in BUYERS looking for what you have to sell. Forget just getting traffic for the sake of having traffic. It's always better to have visits from even just 10 buyers a day from SE's than 100 random visits a day from TE's. You'll notice a big difference once you actually bring in the right kind of traffic...
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| | Post By: member_253495 | Post Date: 2009-10-25 15:58:17 |
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| Quoted from: member_144892 on 2009-10-24 22:41:06 I wouldn't add it here, no. LR is more a community of swapping ideas and helping people learn all the many things there is to know about succeeding online. While you can get a few hits to your site from here, they aren't targeted from buyers, so its not of much use to your product site. Do it the right way from the start and SEO everything you do for search engine traffic, so that way you reel in BUYERS looking for what you have to sell. Forget just getting traffic for the sake of having traffic. It's always better to have visits from even just 10 buyers a day from SE's than 100 random visits a day from TE's. You'll notice a big difference once you actually bring in the right kind of traffic... |
Definitely get your point its actually obvious in our sales. We had more sales when we had less traffic because it was targeted traffic & buyers where as now we have more traffic due to link referral etc but thats more just traffic rather then actual buyers or interested buyers. Guess we just didn't realize how much really goes into all this I spent about 3 hours the other day at the book store just trying to learn some things on marketing online & SEO etc there's a lot to learn for sure. Thanks again your answers have been extremely helpful
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| | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-10-25 22:37:01 |
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| Quoted from: member_253495 on 2009-10-25 15:58:17 Definitely get your point its actually obvious in our sales. We had more sales when we had less traffic because it was targeted traffic & buyers where as now we have more traffic due to link referral etc but thats more just traffic rather then actual buyers or interested buyers. Guess we just didn't realize how much really goes into all this I spent about 3 hours the other day at the book store just trying to learn some things on marketing online & SEO etc there's a lot to learn for sure. Thanks again your answers have been extremely helpful |
I wish more people understood this as well as you do. I'm truly amazed by the amount of people who post that they spend hours every day surfing traffic exchanges and then bragging that they got X amount of views that day and are proud of it. So what? Did it make them any MONEY?? No! It's not going to matter if you got over 1000 visits a day if they are just random people getting paid pennies to view your site! A site needs TARGETED traffic for what that site is offering. I really wish more people would understand that simple concept. It sounds like you have a good grasp of what needs to be done, so I wish you all the best...good luck!
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I haved in one project about 1k backlinks, and haved PR3, but proximally penalized with Google and have PR0. Another site have no more 10 backlinks and now have PR3. Need fresh content. |
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I have noticed my crawler stats are alot higher lately then before could this be because of the added work to our blog and creating quality backlinks and is this important. I would imagine this is the amount of pages you crawl a day so the higher the better correct?
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| | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-10-26 22:26:41 |
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| Quoted from: member_253495 on 2009-10-26 11:57:49 I have noticed my crawler stats are alot higher lately then before could this be because of the added work to our blog and creating quality backlinks and is this important. I would imagine this is the amount of pages you crawl a day so the higher the better correct? |
Yes, you want the SE's to go as deep as possible. This is another thing that too many people overlook. When they go for backlinks most people simply link to their homepage, which is not very effective.What you should be doing is "deep linking" to as many other pages as possible, so they can all rank well (or at least more of them). That's another reason why blogposts to individual website pages is a good idea. Don't put more than 3 links in a post. You really only need 2 anyway...1 to your homepage and 1 to the specific sales page (both with the appropriate anchor text, of course!)
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| | | Post By: member_253495 | Post Date: 2009-10-27 12:29:59 |
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| Quoted from: member_144892 on 2009-10-26 22:26:41 Yes, you want the SE's to go as deep as possible. This is another thing that too many people overlook. When they go for backlinks most people simply link to their homepage, which is not very effective. What you should be doing is "deep linking" to as many other pages as possible, so they can all rank well (or at least more of them). That's another reason why blogposts to individual website pages is a good idea. Don't put more than 3 links in a post. You really only need 2 anyway...1 to your homepage and 1 to the specific sales page (both with the appropriate anchor text, of course!) |
Good I'm glad you mentioned how many links in a post to put because I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be adding as many as possible or just a few. Also I like your explaination of the deep links we actually just started doing this. Because we would write a blog & have it just link back to our site. Now we have been writting blogs on specific products as you stated we should try & having a think to our home page then also a link that actually takes you to the product or to a page containing all of that product(Diffrent colors etc.) This is what you mean by deep linking correct. Basically you want to link to as many of your pages as possible not in one post but in general you want quality links to as many diffrent pages within your site as possible so that your driving traffic to your entire site not just your home page correct?
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| | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-10-28 00:01:26 |
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| Quoted from: member_253495 on 2009-10-27 12:29:59 Good I'm glad you mentioned how many links in a post to put because I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be adding as many as possible or just a few. Also I like your explaination of the deep links we actually just started doing this. Because we would write a blog & have it just link back to our site. Now we have been writting blogs on specific products as you stated we should try & having a think to our home page then also a link that actually takes you to the product or to a page containing all of that product(Diffrent colors etc.) This is what you mean by deep linking correct. Basically you want to link to as many of your pages as possible not in one post but in general you want quality links to as many diffrent pages within your site as possible so that your driving traffic to your entire site not just your home page correct? |
Yes, that is correct. While it is easier to rank your homepage in the SE's with just a few well placed backlinks, most people neglect their inner pages and really ANY page is an opportunity to grab some traffic. I've seen contact pages rank above homepages...you never know exactly what people will search for, so every bit of exposure to a page on your site will help, even if only slightly.
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| | Post By: member_253495 | Post Date: 2009-10-28 09:47:33 |
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| Quoted from: member_144892 on 2009-10-28 00:01:26 Yes, that is correct. While it is easier to rank your homepage in the SE's with just a few well placed backlinks, most people neglect their inner pages and really ANY page is an opportunity to grab some traffic. I've seen contact pages rank above homepages...you never know exactly what people will search for, so every bit of exposure to a page on your site will help, even if only slightly. |
Thank you very much all of this has been extremely helpful information we really do appreciate your time thanks again we'll see how it works out for us over time.
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| | | Post By: member_144892 | Post Date: 2009-11-04 23:18:02 |
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| Quoted from: member_267370 on 2009-11-04 12:05:47 Hi. Could someone tell me which tool i could use to find out how many back links to a website please. |
http://www.backlinkwatch.com/Takes awhile to go through them all, but the information can be quite valuable.
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